So, I wanted some Men of Dale but I refuse to buy them from GW, specifically because Men of Dale only come 10 to a box. Really? Ten? Were these for some kind of special set and then just sort of thrown into a box, with the rules? I am sure Peter Jackson probably screwed GW's plan for The Hobbit by changing from 2 to 3 movies, but really? Ten? Your entire army building rules revolve around groups (warbands) of 12 warriors lead by a hero. Not even an option to build a captain. Anyway, I wanted Men of Dale, so with a little help of another blog I found out about Thunderbolt Mountain. You can read about them on their about us page, but I was blown away by their great miniatures, and I found my Men of Dale. The byzantine warriors with spear and shield fit the bill. So I ordered some up. While trimming away the base is a little painful it really only takes about a minute with clippers. So far I am happy with them, they are a little skinny but are the right height which to me is more important. Below you will see a size comparison of some Games Workshop Lord of The Rings, some Thunderbolt Mountain, and a Red Box Games mini( soon to be my Men of Dale Captain).