The Hobbit Starter set:Escape from Goblin Town

So, I already posted the contents of the starter set, but a few more details have become apparent as some early sets have leaked out.  Well, there are apparently no POINTS VALUES FOR ANY OF THE MODELS IN THE STARTER SET.  Profiles, yes, points value, no.  Now I thought the price of the starter set was a bit high, but within reason as the set contains 55 models, scenery, rulers, dice and a mini rule book.
To put this into perspective:
Well, it is more than that. I personally spent $185.00 on the source books that were released earlier in the year so I could play with the latest army building changes and have all the point values for the models I already own. Well, I purchased the starter set so I could incorporate some of the starter models that I wanted to use/like into the armies that I already have, as well as get a handle on the new rules. If there are truly no points values for any of the models in the starter set anywhere in the starter set, then I will just send it back.  Let me tell you something Games Workshop, a starter set is not just for getting people into the game, you are revamping the game and a lot of us who are long time players are interested in those revamps.  Well, this starter set is not good for anything other then the couple of scenarios that you, GW, have in the set. How will this get people to buy more models?  Oh, you want them to buy the $85 dollar rule book?  They will not do that, you might sell one or the other but not both a rule book and a starter set.

Maybe that is your plan.

Hey all you vets, just get the rule book, don't buy the starter set.

Hey all you people interested in starting the game, don't buy the rule book, just buy a starter set. Which does not really lend itself to other purchases without getting the full size rule book or a LoTR source book, which you may not understand.

Updating later

Radagast in plastic

Thanks to some one ring members and a Russian site we have our first look at a new Hobbit mini. http://www.one-ring.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23932&start=40#p292755
You will have to click the link until I get the pics up.

Battle company blog and news

So, word on the street ( kids effect on my brain......I can only picture Murray from sesame street when I type that ) ........
anyway, The Hobbit minis from games workshop will be out on Nov. 3rd.  There will probably be a journey book ( ala The Fellowhip/TTT/RotK ) and maybe a new version of the core  rule book as well.  Looking forward to seeing what kind of starter set gets released.

Also, there is a battle companies blog.  It has the core upgrade/company requirements as well as some other  companies outside the originals.

Someone somewhere may be in some trouble...

This is posted elsewhere, and may be complete rubbish, but when have we ever shied away from rubbish?

This is a lost, of supposedly leaked names of units/boxes from GW coming out next year for their The Hobbit range.

This does not contain sets that are already in production.
Seems like I will have to save some money, since GW stuff is so expensive now.
Some will be finecast as well......"shiver"
GOOD

Dwarves: Kili & Fili & Longbeard Archers 
Dwarves: Bombur with Kettle 
Dwarves: Drogo Baggins & The Tavern Maid 
Dwarves: Dáin & Iron Hill Berserkers 
Dwarves: King Thráin & Longbeard Vanguard 
Dwarves: Young Thorin & Longbeard Mattockguard 
Dwarves: King Thrór 
Dwarves: Dragon Mithril Company of Dwarves 
Dwarves: Dáin Ironfoot & Iron Hill Boar Riders 
Dwarves: Dís, Mother of Kili and Fili 
Dwarves: Gimli (Stubble) 
Dwarves: Samwise Gamgee (Red Book) 

White Council: Mounted Rivendell Nobles 
White Council: Lindir the Harper 
White Council: Arwen & Estel 
White Council: Galadriel (Barrel) 
White Council: Radagast with Roäc & Swoop 
White Council: Galadriel (Water Steed) 
White Council: The War Council 
White Council: Galadriel & Lórien Drumhooves 
White Council: Chief Aravir & Dúnedain Rangers 
White Council: Dúnedain Runecaster 
White Council: Elrond & Rivendell Spearguard 
White Council: Elros & Rivendell Outriders 
White Council: Radagast's Chariot / Spellfire Cart 
White Council: Cirdan the Shipwright 

Men of Esgaroth: King Girion 
Men of Esgaroth: Fram the Watchman 
Men of Esgaroth: The Master of Lake-Town 
Men of Esgaroth: Bard & Greystreak Bowmen 
Men of Esgaroth: Bain & Quickstrings Gang / Trout Guild Militia 
Men of Esgaroth: Alfrid & Loyal Town Guard 
Men of Esgaroth: Garf & Footsoldiers of the Dale 


Beornings: Woodmen Healer 
Beornings: Fair Daughter 
Beornings: Meneldor & Swiftbeak Flock 
Beornings: Gorm & Woodmen Axethrowers / Skin-Changers 
Beornings: Whisperbark / Gnarlfir 
Beornings: Black Bear Pack 
Beornings: Enraged Beorn 
Beornings: Grimbeorn (Greataxe) 

Silvan Elves: Legolas & Mirkwood Fire Archers 
Silvan Elves: Mirkwood Warhost 
Silvan Elves: King Thranduil (Battle Garb) 
Silvan Elves: Tauriel (Mounted) 
Silvan Elves: Castellan Amroth 

Smaug the Golden 
Gandalf (Dual Sword) 
Turin, The Dragonslayer 

EVIL

Smaug the Golden 

Mountain Orcs: Azog & Orc Needlers 
Mountain Orcs: Azog (Wounded) 
Mountain Orcs: Bolg & Great Goblin Bodyguard 
Mountain Orcs: Armoured Hill-Trolls / Frenzied Trolls 
Mountain Orcs: Orc Stone Thrower 

Wargs: Dire Warg 
Wargs: Grinnah & Mirkwood Werewolves 
Wargs: Feral Wolf Pack 
Wargs: The Werebeast 
Wargs: Lagdush & Orc Wolfcloak Warriors 
Wargs: Narzug & Orc Warg-Riders 
Wargs: Dol Guldur Orc Overlords 
Wargs: Orc Chieftain on Warg 
Wargs: Orc Wolfbone Shaman 

Dol Guldur: Leaping Spiders / Shiverfang Spiders 
Dol Guldur: Spiderlings 
Dol Guldur: The Willowhags 
Dol Guldur: Bloodwraiths 
Dol Guldur: Gwethil 
Dol Guldur: The Necromancer / Flesh Avatar 
Dol Guldur: Narzug & Orc Summoner Coven 
Dol Guldur: Tomb Wights 
Dol Guldur: Mounted Tomb Wights 
Dol Guldur: Saruman & The Ringwraiths 
Dol Guldur: Vampire Bat Swarms 

Grey Mountain Dragons: Fire-wyrms 
Grey Mountain Dragons: Braga & Goldscale Worshippers 
Grey Mountain Dragons: Venomblade Assassin 
Grey Mountain Dragons: Goldscale Priest 
Grey Mountain Dragons: Bofur on Cold-Drake 
Grey Mountain Dragons: Dragon Thrall 
Grey Mountain Dragons: Money Bags & Hired Knives 
Grey Mountain Dragons: Fell Hatchlings 

ADVENTURES

Adventure: Gandalf's Quest 
Adventure: The Battle at the East Gate 
Adventure: The Fall of Dale 
Adventure: The Belltower 
Adventure: A Thief in the Night 
Adventure: The Clearing of Foul Roots 
Adventure: Assault on the Barrows 
Adventure: Clash of the Beasts 
Adventure: The Last Stand 
Adventure: The Raven Hill 
Adventure: Thorin's Folly 
Adventure: The Battle of Five Armies 
Adventure: Breaking the Siege 
Adventure: Revenge of the Goblin King 
Adventure: Blacksoil Slope 
Adventure: The Final Onslaught 
Adventure: The Clouds Burst 
Adventure: The Ritual 
Adventure: The Haunted Tombs 
Adventure: The Blight Breach 
Adventure: Gollum's Escape

About those new paints-edit Now with names.....now with more speculation!

On the GW site today there is a teaser with the number 145, and a bunch of color splashes....hmmm, there are 145 items in the list below...coincidence....I think not.


Via Darnok at warseer,


-144 colours are in,
-lots of renaming of colours, nothing is leaving
-All in different catagories now, Shades (washes), bases, layers, glazes (thin washes) and textures.
-Prices are staying the same

So, what are textures?  Foundation paints?

That is a huge increase in the number of paints, holy paint rack batman!


Some more clarity on names of ranges.....
this info indicates that the drys are "goopy" paints for drybrushing (this is GW we're talking about, sounds more like them to release "drybrushing" paints than weathering powders). The source also stated that the bases are highly pigmented paints "halfway between foundation and current paints", I take this to mean not necessarily the existing foundation paints (so expect color shifts if that is correct). 


I realize that I am ripping from peoples posts on other forums, I take no credit for any of this, it has come from dakka dakka and warseer.




BASES
Ceramite White
Averland Sun
Jokaero Orange
Mephiston Red
Khorne Red
Naggaroth Night
Daemonette Hide
Kantor Blue
Macragge Blue
Caledon Sky
Stegadon scale green
Incubi Darkness
Caliban Green
Waaaagh! Flesh
Castellan green
Death world forest
Zandri dust
Steel Legion Drab
Bugmans Glow
Ratskin Flesh
Mournfang brown
XV-88
Rhinox hide
Dryad bark
Mechanicus standard grey
Celestus grey
Abaddon Black (the only black in the range)
Rakarth flesh
The fang
Screamer pink
Leadblecher (metal)
Balthasar Gold (metal)
Screaming Bell (metal)
Warplock brown (metal)




LAYER
White Scar
Yriel Yellow
Flash gitz yellow
Troll slayer orange
Fire dragon bright
Evil sunz scarlet
Wild Rider red
Wazdakka red
Squig Orange
Xereus Purple
Genestealer Purple
Warpfiend Grey
Slaanesh Grey
Alaitoc blue
Hoeth blue
Altdorf guard blue
Calgar blue
Teclis blue
Lothern blue
Sotek green
Temple guard blue
Kabalite green
Sybarite green
Warpstone glow
Moot green
Warboss green
Skarsnik green
Loren Forest
Straken green
Nurgling green
Elysian green
Ogryn camo
Ushabti Bone
Screaming skull
Tallarn sand
Karak stone
Cadian fleshstone
Kislev Flesh
Bestigor flesh
Ungor flesh
Skrag brown
Deathclaw brown
Tau light Ochre
Balor brown
Zamesi brown
Doombull brown
Tuskigor fur
Gorthor Brown
Baneblade Brown
Dawnstone
Administratum grey
Eshin grey
Dark reaper
Thunderhawk blue
Skavenblight dinge
Stormvermin fur
Ulthuan grey
Pallid wych flesh
Russ grey
Fenrisian grey
Pink horror
Emperors Children
Ironbreaker (metal)
Runefang steel (metal)
Gehennas gold(metal)
Auric Armour(metal)
Hashut Copper(metal)
Sycorax Bronze(metal)
Brass Scorpion(metal)
Runelord Brass(metal)


SHADES
Casandora Yellow
Fuegan Orange
Carroburg Crimson
Druchii Violet
Drakenhof Nightshade
Coelia greenshade
Biel-tan green
Athonian camoshade
Seraphim Sepia
Reikland fleshshade
Agrax earthshade (Devlan Mud)
Nuln Oil


DRY
Praxeti White
Hexos palesun
Kindleflame
Lucius Lilac
Etherium blue
Skink blue
Hellion green
Underhive ash
Eldar Flesh
Tyrant Shell
Terminatus stone
Longbeard grey
Changling pink
Necron Compound
Golden Griffon


GLAZE
Lamenters yellow
Waywatcher Green
Guilliman blue
Bloodletter


TEXTURE
Mourn Mountain snow
Stirland Mud
Blackfire Eath
Astrogranite
Armageddon Dust
Lustrian Undergrowth


TECHNICAL
Lahmian Medium
Ard coat
Imperial Primer
Liquid Green stuff

From warseer user bramgaunt

Re: Some hope for 2012?
Time to get a little more specific.

LotR get's a relaunch this febuary (4th of feb to be precise).

Release includes 5 books (40k codex size and price, sadly no hardcover) that cover ALL armies. All existing books will be removed and are no longer for sale, except for the rulebook itself and the three campaign books for the three movies.

Following books will be released: Realms of Men (Arnor, Gondor, Rohan), Forces of Mordor (Mordor, Isengart, Moria/Misty Mountains Goblins), Free folk of Middle-Earth (Elves and Dwarfs I assumed), Fallen Realms (Harad and Easterlings) and one that sums up the rest.

The Books will contain updated rules for ALL LotR Miniatures and nullify the entries in the big Rulebook. The rulebook is not replaced, but each of the five new themed books contains several pages of updated rules. WotR will mostly vanish from stores and be a better supported specialist game. There will be releases for WotR, but the LotR tabletop stays the third of the three big GW games.

Expect your armies to change drastically.

The release is accompanied by one (1) new plastic box set (some kind of cavallery) and a whole bunch of finecast miniatures. Some old friends, like the WotR command boxes, and some genuine new sculpts.

There is nothing else happening in febuary, at least that's what I've been told. First pure LotR month for some time now. Expect pictures any day now, the new WD will feature a LOT of LotR.

I suspect that the plastic set is easterling kataphrakts. If this is true I am sort of disappointed. No one rulebook? Seriously? We are going to have some bald assed "sort of " rulebooks ? Nice choice for the third core system.

Since we are in the rumor business-update-update again

The reboxing of mini's has been essentially confirmed.  Multiple sources citing an email from GW.  GW stores have been requested to make space for more LoTR inventory.  I am truly curious to see the new packaging and how that will coincide with a new/updated rule set.  Others have pointed out that the repackaging will make WoTR  more expensive.  Current plastics come on sprues that contain 4 shield/hand weapon, 4 bow and 4 spear/2 handed or some similar combo of 4/4/4(except harad and fighting uruk hai).  What will future plastics be?  If one follows the WoTR rule of common formations being plastic, then we can speculate the following to become plastic at some point: IMHO of course

Most Likely
Knight of Dol Amroth on foot
Men at arms of Dol Amroth
Citadel Guards( mix of bow/spear?)
Rohan Royal Knights( mounted rohan royal guard?)
New High Elves( including knights perhaps?)
Great Eagle
Mordor Uruk Hai
Wild Men/men of carn dum
New warg riders
giant spiders

Easterling Kataphrakt haradrim raider

Less Likely
Warriors of Arnor
Numenorean archers
Rohan Royal Knights/guard on foot
Orc Trackers
Dunlendings
bats
prowlers

Serpent Rider/guard Khandish Mercenary Which may seem like a lot but there have not been any new release in over a year.

This one seemed juicy
Newest rumor about the new rulebook due next month along with repackaging for The Hobbit Movie release.......
There must be a constant ratio of heroes:troops.  This may vary by army, or it may not.  WE LOVE UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMORS WWWWWEEEEEEEEEE.

And yet we have MORE.....Games Workshop Price Increase and cutting box numbers!
Boxes of plastic infantry will be cut in half(i.e. 1 sprue per box instead of 2), and the price will go up per sprue by about 35%.  Example, a box of 24 dwarves currently is $33, a "repackaged" box of 12 dwarves would be $22, making 24 cost $44, a 33% price increase!!

At the moment I am not sure if this is true, however let me express my regrets for Games Workshop customers if this does turn out to be true.  I will certainly avoid purchasing Games Workshop boxed infantry for The Hobbit Movie.  There are plenty of alternatives available: Wargames Factory, Mantic, Gripping Beast, reaper, Red Box, caesar miniatures, and megaminis(classic grenadier for @1.50 per metal mini).

Rumour: GW to switch from metal to resin?

Plastics will stay as is but the metal models are being recalled and to be recast in resin?

Link


The GW games i play are predominantly metal: Warmaster, BFG, and LotR. I have an all metal SoB and Khand army already.
I wonder if these game systems will switch as well.

Apparently they are removing them in waves, some of which were already re-rendered in plastic, with the first ones to be removed being these after the break
Updated list of discontinued metal LoTR models- a lot of popular models.......
02-06 THE BREAKING OF THE FELLOWSHIP
02-07 RINGWRAITHS
02-35 ARAGORN FOOT & MOUNTED
02-36 GANDALF THE WHITE FOOT & MOUNTED
02-37 LEGOLAS FOOT & MOUNTED
02-40 RINGWRAITH FOOT & MOUNTED
02-43 GOBLIN CAPTAINS
02-97 WITCH KING OF ANGMAR FT & MTD
03-35 SARUMAN AND GRIMA
03-36 MAUHUR
03-37 MAUHUR COMMAND
03-39 THEODEN FOOT & MOUNTED
03-40 Thrydan Wolfsbane
03-41 Saruman (Orthanc)
03-49 DUNLENDING WARRIORS COMMAND
03-53 MORGUL STALKERS
04-35 ARAGORN KING OF GONDOR FT & MTD
05-07 THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING
05-09 MORANNON ORC COMMANDERS
05-17 URUK-HAI SEIGE ASSAULT BALLISTA
05-19 TREEBEARD
05-35 GOTHMOG FOOT & MOUNTED
05-36 ORC SHAMAN ON WARG
05-40 THE DARK MARSHAL
05-41 ELF SPEARMEN
05-42 ELF COMMAND
05-44 MORANNON ORC CAPTAINS
05-45 ORC TASK MASTER AND DRUMMER
05-46 MORDOR ORC CAPTAINS
05-49 BLACK NUMENOREAN WARRIORS
05-62 URUK-HAI WITH CROSSBOWS
05-63 URUK-HAI BERSERKERS
05-71 ROHAN ROYAL GUARD ON FOOT
05-82 ROHAN ROYAL GUARD MOUNTED
05-84 MORDOR ORC COMMAND
05-85 WARRIORS OF MINAS TIRITH COMMAND
05-92 GUARDS OF THE FOUNTAIN COURT
05-95 EASTERLING COMMAND
06-08 GONDOR BATTLE CRY TREBUCHET
06-16 MINAS TIRITH COMMANDERS
06-32 TROLL CHIEFTAN
06-35 DUINHIR
06-36 BLACKROOT ARC. CMMND
06-37 KHAZAD GUARD
06-38 GOBLIN KING OF MORIA
06-39 MEN AT ARMS OF DOL AMROTH
06-40 FARAMIR OF ITHILIEN
06-41 ARMOURED BOROMIR FOOT & MOUNTED
06-48 RIDER OF THE DEAD
06-56 KNIGHT OF DOL AMROTH FOOT
06-66 HARADRIM COMMAND
06-67 HOBBIT ARCHERS
06-68 HOBBIT MILITIA
06-77 FORLONG & ANGBOR
06-78 AXEMEN OF LOSSARNACH
06-95 SHAGRAT & GORBAG
07-06 THE THREE HUNTERS
09-17 SERPENT RIDERS
09-34 EASTERLING KATAPHRAKT
09-39 KHAMUL THE EASTERLING FT & MTD
09-41 CIRION AND MADRIL
09-43 DWARF COMMAND
09-47 WOOD ELF COMMAND
09-50 DALAMYR FLEETMASTER OF UMBAR
09-51 CORSAIR BOSUN AND CAPTAIN
09-52 CORSAIR ARBALESTERS
09-53 SULADAN THE SERPENT LORD FT & MTD
09-55 SERPENT GUARD
09-57 WATCHERS OF KARNA
09-62 HALF TROLLS
11-11 GULAHVAR THE TERROR OF ARNOR
11-51 HILL TROLL CHIEFTAIN BUHRDUR
12-06 DRAGON
12-40 MORIA GOBLIN SHAMAN

Update on the incoming Misty Mountains

So, word over at The One Ring is the release in October for Lord of The Rings will be a cave drake along with Floi Stonehand, Kings Champion in a 3 character box, Gundabad Blackshields and a command box for the Blackshields.

 Edit: Here are better pics, courtesy of another The One Ring member Lorizael. Top to bottom Kins Champion Boxset, Gundabad Blackshield captain/drummer, Gundabad Blackshield Command Drum and shaman, Regular Gundabad blackshield, Floi Stonehand, Cave Drake, . Here is a link to a post by Scryer in the darkness with the figs in WoTR .  Pics After the brake....

Misty Mountain update

Rumors swirl once again around the base of the Misty Mountains. With at least three blisters and two boxes expected there can be no doubt that one box will be a metal cave drake, the other a dwarf command with a horn blower. The blisters three will be: Floi Stonehand Loremaster of Moria, a Dwarf Ranger Captain, and Gundabad Blackshields that come four to a blister. What will come true, if I only knew, but please leave a comment if you have a clue.

I will see you later-as always-Jobu